it’s actually funny because even high on uppers Kavinsky is still more chilled out than Ronan ever is.
See, normally I get delighted by people reading the Raven Cycle but you went and mentioned the New York trilogy and now I DON’T KNOW WHICH TO BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT.
Third book comes out end of October. The title is SUPPOSEDLY coming soon according to certain wicked people who shall go unnamed.
I think it’s interesting how Kavinsky typically is seen using uppers and Ronan depressants and how that ties into their characters
By “I think it’s interesting”, I hope you mean “And I’m writing a meta on”.♥5
I said he can’t say he doesn’t swing that way, because he does; as opposed to him being freely able to say he doesn’t like Gansey, because he doesn’t. So, no, I didn’t, but no worries!
And yes, to Adam.
Hmm that’s interesting because I consider them to be very character-driven books, despite having a lot going on plot-wise. Really it’s just a bunch of people in various shades of fuck-up who refuse to stop fucking up
Yes, but none of them are particularly instrumental. It’s why you can kill anyone and everyone, and why there’s no real main character. The draw of those books is finding out what happens next—not necessarily finding out what someone will do or more about that person (at least, that was my impression of the book and what I saw of the show).
This is fascinating to me, because while I can see why the chaos and high body count would leave some thinking the characters of ASOIAF don’t really matter, I see them as being incredibly instrumental to the narrative.
(Major spoilers for both the books and TV show)
To be fair to the series, I’ve only read the first book and watched the first couple of episodes. But I suppose it’s more a question of where the author’s heart lies? Which is a wishy washy sort of answer and I fully recognize that, but just to explain my odd brain: there are hundreds of characters in ASOIAF, and almost all the ones that are in the first book will be dead eventually. Even if they are all absolutely vital to the narrative (which, given that plot and character should be a happy marriage, I do think is probably true and I didn’t mean to suggest otherwise), there is a point where the narrative is more important than any one of their lives. I didn’t really get the sense that there was a character or group of characters in the series that we are meant to follow, the same way that we do (for one example) Harry, Hermione, and Ron. It’s a very interesting way to do things; it’s just not a way that’s going to get a whole lot of investment from me.
(I also have a personal love of intimate versus grand scale; see, for anyone who knows what I’m talking about, my love for the first Fullmetal Alchemist over the second and even the manga. Or even my preference for Firefly and Angel over Buffy.)
(Also I only skimmed your post because who knows, maybe I’ll read them some day. I already know the big things but still.)♥5
Well, Dream Thieves. But I suppose you mean the more traditional kind. Ronan doesn’t smoke canonically, and he refuses to snort anything Kavinsky offers. There’s always the possibility I suppose he’s done them once, but I’d be more inclined to think no. Ronan has pretty clear rules for himself, and those rules seem to allow for alcohol and not much else.