Ah see, I didn’t see it as the inevitability of Lucifer being victorious, I saw it as the inevitability of Dean and/or Michael having to face down Sam and/or Lucifer. To me it works just as well to have Dean facing down Lucifer in a different vessel.

While I can see that side of it as well, I don’t agree, based on the rest of his speech: ”I know you won’t say yes to Michael, either. And I know you won’t kill Sam. Whatever you do, you will always end up here. Whatever choices you make, whatever details you alter, we will always end up—here. I win. So, I win.Those last words especially hone in on the idea that Dean is inherently unable to accomplish the task for which he was borne, and so Lucifer wins, because he is destined to win. If you take the “end up here” literally though, I can see that interpretation.

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  1. greekedtext said: Luci meant “I win/you lose”, but I thought endverse fans were hoping for a desperately broken dystopia? Is it really endverse if it still pretty much looks like the world as we know it in its last seconds before Luci’s triumph?
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